Hello Øyvind,

You misunderstand what Victor says. There is no place of torment as the church teaches. There is no lake of fire or demons punishing people. There is no "hell." The speakers who are on the next planes of life are very clear about that. When they use the term "hell," they're using it metaphorically to refer to a lower spiritual level, but they also are very clear that it isn't a place of judgment, condemnation, and torture.

What Victor is referring to is the fact that those who are cruel on the Earth plane will find themselves in a level on the next plane of life that fits their attitude. If they're cruel, insensitive, and violent, they'll find themselves among others who are cruel, insensitive, and violent, and the environment in which they live will be just reflect their attitude--it won't be loving and compassionate, and will have all the negative feelings of cruelty, insensitivity, and violence. But no one is judging them, and they are not punished. They are creating that lower level of existence. They will eventually grow out of it into spiritual maturity. But their attitude is what creates that lower level, and their attitude will take them into a higher level.

People feel the need for judgment, condemnation, and revenge. Those are themselves lower level spiritual attitudes. They justify their hatred, anger, and judgment saying the person they're condemning is evil, but their own attitude is itself personally destructive. They need to grow out of that into seeing that all people are growing spiritually, even those on the lowest spiritual levels now. We shouldn't condemn them; we should have hope for them. And when we can help them grow, we need to do that. Separating people from us by saying they're bad or evil is keeping us from ourselves growing beyond that into love and acceptance.

We'll know when we've grown in spiritual maturity when we can accept and love those who are despicable, even while we abhor their actions.

Love and peace, Craig